I sat down metaphorically (aka sent a Facebook message) to Elenita for an interview on her post-Uni plans. Here is the exciting interview!
1) What are you up to next year?
Organic farming in two superb locations! I'm going to the Nantahalla Mountains, NC for four months then Maui, HI for four more. I could not be more psyched, I made the perfect decision for myself. I was initially going to do one year in one location but I am utterly incapable of making decisions so I just split up a year into semesters. Also I wanted summer ‘12 free because I don’t get to see people otherwise.
2) How do you stumble across this opportunity?
Well, long story. It has a lot to do with my being overly flexible in my life or somewhat rash, one might say. You see, in the very beginning, I was planning to go straight to college. So I was really excited and constantly looking for colleges that I thought would fit me and I visited them to make sure and such. Then I decided I need to take a gap year, which was no biggie, but I had to cut our any state schools on my list essentially. So I started applying and all and they were mostly all done when I realized that I hated every college on my list. I didn’t like the people or the places so I decided I’d do a year in Parkland Pathways then transfer to a place I’d like better. But then sometime in March, after I finished my Pathways application too, I remembered that I hate it here (which is not a dig at anyone who does, it all has to do with the individual, you know, and I happen to not function well in the CU).
At the this point I had to really think about what I like, which wasn’t hard, I like nice people and hate material goods. So a commune I was set on seeking. However, after only a week of online commune seeking I realized that about 70% of what I had seen were cults, and though I wanted to join two in particular, my parents were not enthused. But that was okay, because I noticed what also attracted me to those particular communes was their sustainable development, in particular, farms. So I then just stumbled upon growfood.org, the best website on the interweb perhaps. It’s great, just hundreds of farms. So at that point, planning next year was just gravy. I chose the farms that looked funnest.
3) What were your initial thoughts about the college process?
It completely overwhelmed me. I was not into the idea of trying to explain my essence to strangers in tiny essays and grades. I was convinced that no college, no matter how good the rest of my application, would accept me based on my lowly GPA. Of course, this is not true at all, but I was very self conscious of college admissions. I mean their job is just judging people based on very little and I hate that. Who doesn’t? But when it actually came down to putting my applications together, it wasn’t that bad at all. It’s so over-hyped but it’s really not that bad, I think people just like to scare applicants. That’s what’s up.
4) Did you feel supported by your peers during the process? Your family?
Well, honestly, I don’t talk to that many of peers. It’s not good, especially because it seemed like my class was really supportive of each other throughout the application process, I think most classes are. The people I talk to most, however, I generally against the whole systems for applying, and a lot of what we say is true, but it’s entirely unhelpful while you have to go though it.
My parents, on the other hand, I just lied to them a lot about my progress and didn’t tell them when I decided not to turn anything in, which was silly. They’re not pushy at all, it probably would have helped to keep them in the know a bit more. If they were pushy though, it probably would have been easier lying to them than having them on my butt the whole time.
5) Do you feel supported by your peers with your decision? Your family?
Oh I do! Everyone I tell about next year says something really positive and enthusiastic, which is nice. In general, students are always at least pleasant about others’ college plans. Sometimes younger classes get all sassy and say obnoxious things but they haven’t done it yet! Once students have everyone gets so much more supportive and cordial. Actually the only people who are really rude about students’ college choices are the the parents, which is so absurd. Like grown up strangers who antagonize teenagers about where they’re going or not going to college? They just need to go away. Not my parents though, they’re so into my decision. They think it’s so rad and they’re whole mantra is “do what you feel is right”. I really wish more students had that, it’s so unfair that your own parents would berate your plans, I mean unless you’re doing something completely self destructive.
6) Why did you choose to do this instead of the "traditional" Uni route of college?
My decision came from 50% indecision and 50% getting in touch with my inner desires, I think. I mean I just have this sort of flexibility for my future or inherent rashness, one might say, that allowed my to constantly revise my plans until I got them right. I don’t feel like I’m forcing myself to “conform” or that I’m pushing the contradictory on myself. My decision feels 100% right for me right now and not that I’m saying everyone should boycott college, but everyone should be allowed time to think, without any constraints that they might have now, hard about what they want to do. And I mean what they want to do right now, not in ten years. Uni grads can be 16 to 19 at any age in between is too young to have to decide they’re whole future right now. Though on the other hand, some people might now right now exactly what they want to do forever, but either way there shouldn’t be so much pressure like “your life is going to end if you don’t do this”. Silly.
7) What are your fears with this experience?
I like to think that I don’t have any, but I think I’m just not thinking. It all sounds so gnarly right now and I’m so excited to start, but there’s definitely going to be some difficult adjustments like non-easily accessible electricity. I sounds so cool that I’m going to get to live in a tepee or yurt but when push comes to shove or whatever its probably going to be hard. Not the manual labor though, I only have to work 30 hours a week because both farms indulge in lots of play time.
8) What do you hope to gain from this experience?
Oh I have no idea. In North Carolina, I get to spend hands on time learning about environmental design, which is one of the many things I might want to study if I decide to go to college later, and fermentation and a whole booty load of great things. But in terms of something deeper, per se, let anything enlightening come as it may!
9) Do you have any advice for the juniors?
Stay in touch with your peers and what they’re doing throughout applying. I always found it reassuring to find someone who was doing the same thing I was or someone who had already filled out their U of I app, for example, to help me. Also talk to Lisa a lot, which everyone says, because everyone should because she is so so helpful. Make sure you only apply places you’d actually want to go, even fall back schools that you’re sure you won’t have to go to, just get yourself real jazzed about all the places on you list. Lastly, entertain all ideas you have about college, don’t rule anything out. I kept myself from applying to better schools because I was sure I wasn’t going to get in. But I realize this is the reverse for a lot of people, so don’t be afraid to apply to less “prestigious” schools even if you think your peers will think worse of you (because they really won’t, and even if they did, who cares) or your parents aren’t a fan because later you might be able to change their minds. That happens.
Remember to listen to your "inner-self" in regards to your wants, needs, happiness, etc. throughout the college process. Elenita paused and thought deeply about what she wanted, which all you juniors should do. Remember, this is your life and your decision.
-Celinda :]
PS, Thanks so much Elenita for taking the time to answer so thoroughly and so thoughtfully!
Monday, May 9, 2011
Thursday, May 5, 2011
PCC College Decision: Stef
Hey!
I am so excited for two reasons. One, this is the 50th College Corner Blog (YAY)! Two, this is the long-awaited Stefanie Senior blog. I have to say that this was one of the most heartfelt, honest, and thoughtful pieces of writing I have read in a long time. I have enjoyed the past five years at Uni with Stef, and I wish the best for her at--well, why don't you just read and find out? :]
Dear Everyone and Everything:
I’M GOING TO PARKLAND.
On May 21, 2011, I’m going to graduate from University Laboratory High School- the alma mater of three Nobel laureates, a Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist, an Academy Award winner, and an Olympic speed skater to name a few- and then I’m going to go to Parkland.
I’m telling you this for two reasons: The first is that I just received a theatre scholarship from Parkland, which will pay for tuition and fees of two years’ full-time study (!) and which requires me to do theatre (which I was going to do anyway, but now it will pay for school!) at Parkland.
The second reason I’m telling you this is that, in my five years at Uni, I’ve noticed a generally negative attitude towards Parkland (if I’m wrong here- and trust me, I’d love to be- correct me).
Especially in the past two years, since I’ve been going through the college process, I’ve noticed several cases of “or I could just go to Parkland”- I myself was guilty of it early on- and it’s something that I’d like to see changed, especially since I’m on the brink of beginning my education there.
Since beginning college talks with Lisa Micele, I heard over and over again that “Parkland is a good option”. I knew that Parkland was a good school (and not just for a community college), but somewhere in the back of my mind, I was thinking, “I hope it doesn’t come to that.” (Granted, that could have been because I wasn’t even considering staying in Illinois for college, but still.)
However, after my college apps went off, and my early-app friends started getting their outcomes back, I started to get anxious: What if I didn’t try hard enough? What if I don’t get in to this school or that school? Will everyone be disappointed in me? Will I have failed somehow? What if I do have to go to Parkland? I spent weeks and months like this; February may actually have been my least favorite month of senior year.
Then, in March, just as the college decision process was about to kick into high gear, Spring Break dropped in for a visit, and I shipped off to Arizona to visit my dad, uncle and grandparents (Fun fact: The ratio of bachelor’s degree to no degree is two and two- my grandpa and uncle vs. my grandma and dad). We all spent time talking about college, each family member giving me advice and sharing their thoughts about college. And then my dad gave me perhaps the single most useful piece of advice I’ve been given during the entire college process:
“Once you go apply for your third or fourth job, it’s going to be your job history and experience and not the name of your school that’s going to get you a job.”
At the time, I sedately agreed; but when I went back home and two weeks later started getting college letters, it became one of the only thoughts at the front of my mind. I was still a little disappointed at my outcomes (Accepted: Beloit College; Rejected: Georgetown, Yale, Notre Dame, Carnegie Mellon; Waitlisted: Bryn Mawr), but I realized I had options, and Parkland was one of them. As Parkland became a more and more serious option, my mom (who was also planning a triumphant return to school) and I began to look into financial aid and scholarships. I applied to Parkland (scarier than you might think), and then applied for financial aid as well as a theatre scholarship.
All this time, however, I was still having anxieties: Even though I was happy with the decision to go to Parkland, and I knew that my friends would be very supportive, I was still pretty embarrassed to make this news public. I kept having this mental image of the back of the graduation program: “Stefanie Senior, Parkland College, theatre”; and the reaction of my classmates’ parents: “Oh, that Stefanie Senior is going to Parkland? Is that the best she could do?” (I’m flattering myself to think that, post-high-school-graduation, any of my classmates’ parents will be talking about anyone or anything but their child’s completion of a major milestone, but this is how my mind works). I couldn’t stop carrying this image around in my head, so I asked Lisa Micele if we could have a meeting to go over my options and perhaps dispense some of my anxieties.
After the meeting, I felt a whole lot better. I was still a little unsure (though fairly certain) that I was going to Parkland, but I knew that I was more than likely not going to publish it on the first-floor map, in the Gargoyle, or on the back of the graduation program- the ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ of college outcomes.
Then, Saturday (4/30), I came home from Anat/Phys class to a letter from Parkland. I wasn’t eager to read it, because I thought it may have just been something about missing documents or the completion of my concurrent enrollment- all college mail looks the same after a while. I picked up the letter and opened it, and when I pulled the contents out, I noticed that they were rather thick. I began to read.
“Dear Ms Senior,” it said. “Congratulations! You have been selected as a recipient of a Parkland College theatre scholarship.”
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Full tuition and fees for two years’ full-time study? Yes please!
And, in that moment- as cheesy as this sounds- my embarrassment was gone. I’m going to Parkland- they’re paying for me to do theatre and go to school! What more could a theatre kid ask for?
And I went on Facebook, and I published it for the world to see. Guess what? 21 “likes” and 8 comments- and most of them from Uni students.
So, Juniors (and your parents, if they’re reading): When you are going through your college process, if at any point you step back and say, “I don’t know what I want to do with the next year of my life, let alone four!” or “I don’t know what I want my major to be! I can’t even think about my career goals!” or “I don’t want to leave my parents!”, put Parkland on your college list. It doesn’t have to stay there- by the time you actually go submit your apps, you may have everything figured out- but keep Parkland in your mind, and don’t think of it as a last resort school. It’s a good option financially and educationally; and if you still have Ivy-League ambitions, you can transfer in once you’ve finished your associate’s degree. In fact, you may even have a better chance of getting admitted as a transfer than you did as an undergrad!
So, if you actually read this whole thing, kudos to you; if you pulled a “tl;dr” and only read the first and last bits, I leave you with this: Your self-worth is not solely dependent on your choice of college. Do what works for you, and throw everything else out the window.
You’ll feel a lot better when you do.
Love,
Stefanie
I am so excited for two reasons. One, this is the 50th College Corner Blog (YAY)! Two, this is the long-awaited Stefanie Senior blog. I have to say that this was one of the most heartfelt, honest, and thoughtful pieces of writing I have read in a long time. I have enjoyed the past five years at Uni with Stef, and I wish the best for her at--well, why don't you just read and find out? :]
Dear Everyone and Everything:
I’M GOING TO PARKLAND.
On May 21, 2011, I’m going to graduate from University Laboratory High School- the alma mater of three Nobel laureates, a Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist, an Academy Award winner, and an Olympic speed skater to name a few- and then I’m going to go to Parkland.
I’m telling you this for two reasons: The first is that I just received a theatre scholarship from Parkland, which will pay for tuition and fees of two years’ full-time study (!) and which requires me to do theatre (which I was going to do anyway, but now it will pay for school!) at Parkland.
The second reason I’m telling you this is that, in my five years at Uni, I’ve noticed a generally negative attitude towards Parkland (if I’m wrong here- and trust me, I’d love to be- correct me).
Especially in the past two years, since I’ve been going through the college process, I’ve noticed several cases of “or I could just go to Parkland”- I myself was guilty of it early on- and it’s something that I’d like to see changed, especially since I’m on the brink of beginning my education there.
Since beginning college talks with Lisa Micele, I heard over and over again that “Parkland is a good option”. I knew that Parkland was a good school (and not just for a community college), but somewhere in the back of my mind, I was thinking, “I hope it doesn’t come to that.” (Granted, that could have been because I wasn’t even considering staying in Illinois for college, but still.)
However, after my college apps went off, and my early-app friends started getting their outcomes back, I started to get anxious: What if I didn’t try hard enough? What if I don’t get in to this school or that school? Will everyone be disappointed in me? Will I have failed somehow? What if I do have to go to Parkland? I spent weeks and months like this; February may actually have been my least favorite month of senior year.
Then, in March, just as the college decision process was about to kick into high gear, Spring Break dropped in for a visit, and I shipped off to Arizona to visit my dad, uncle and grandparents (Fun fact: The ratio of bachelor’s degree to no degree is two and two- my grandpa and uncle vs. my grandma and dad). We all spent time talking about college, each family member giving me advice and sharing their thoughts about college. And then my dad gave me perhaps the single most useful piece of advice I’ve been given during the entire college process:
“Once you go apply for your third or fourth job, it’s going to be your job history and experience and not the name of your school that’s going to get you a job.”
At the time, I sedately agreed; but when I went back home and two weeks later started getting college letters, it became one of the only thoughts at the front of my mind. I was still a little disappointed at my outcomes (Accepted: Beloit College; Rejected: Georgetown, Yale, Notre Dame, Carnegie Mellon; Waitlisted: Bryn Mawr), but I realized I had options, and Parkland was one of them. As Parkland became a more and more serious option, my mom (who was also planning a triumphant return to school) and I began to look into financial aid and scholarships. I applied to Parkland (scarier than you might think), and then applied for financial aid as well as a theatre scholarship.
All this time, however, I was still having anxieties: Even though I was happy with the decision to go to Parkland, and I knew that my friends would be very supportive, I was still pretty embarrassed to make this news public. I kept having this mental image of the back of the graduation program: “Stefanie Senior, Parkland College, theatre”; and the reaction of my classmates’ parents: “Oh, that Stefanie Senior is going to Parkland? Is that the best she could do?” (I’m flattering myself to think that, post-high-school-graduation, any of my classmates’ parents will be talking about anyone or anything but their child’s completion of a major milestone, but this is how my mind works). I couldn’t stop carrying this image around in my head, so I asked Lisa Micele if we could have a meeting to go over my options and perhaps dispense some of my anxieties.
After the meeting, I felt a whole lot better. I was still a little unsure (though fairly certain) that I was going to Parkland, but I knew that I was more than likely not going to publish it on the first-floor map, in the Gargoyle, or on the back of the graduation program- the ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ of college outcomes.
Then, Saturday (4/30), I came home from Anat/Phys class to a letter from Parkland. I wasn’t eager to read it, because I thought it may have just been something about missing documents or the completion of my concurrent enrollment- all college mail looks the same after a while. I picked up the letter and opened it, and when I pulled the contents out, I noticed that they were rather thick. I began to read.
“Dear Ms Senior,” it said. “Congratulations! You have been selected as a recipient of a Parkland College theatre scholarship.”
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Full tuition and fees for two years’ full-time study? Yes please!
And, in that moment- as cheesy as this sounds- my embarrassment was gone. I’m going to Parkland- they’re paying for me to do theatre and go to school! What more could a theatre kid ask for?
And I went on Facebook, and I published it for the world to see. Guess what? 21 “likes” and 8 comments- and most of them from Uni students.
So, Juniors (and your parents, if they’re reading): When you are going through your college process, if at any point you step back and say, “I don’t know what I want to do with the next year of my life, let alone four!” or “I don’t know what I want my major to be! I can’t even think about my career goals!” or “I don’t want to leave my parents!”, put Parkland on your college list. It doesn’t have to stay there- by the time you actually go submit your apps, you may have everything figured out- but keep Parkland in your mind, and don’t think of it as a last resort school. It’s a good option financially and educationally; and if you still have Ivy-League ambitions, you can transfer in once you’ve finished your associate’s degree. In fact, you may even have a better chance of getting admitted as a transfer than you did as an undergrad!
So, if you actually read this whole thing, kudos to you; if you pulled a “tl;dr” and only read the first and last bits, I leave you with this: Your self-worth is not solely dependent on your choice of college. Do what works for you, and throw everything else out the window.
You’ll feel a lot better when you do.
Love,
Stefanie
Monday, May 2, 2011
Uni and the College Process
Hey Juniors!
I am super excited for some of the blogs coming up. As I already stated, Stef is going to do a blog about Parkland. We will also hear from the other PCCs and their college decisions. Also, Elenita agreed to be interviewed about her future plans--let me tell you, they are really cool!
Before any of these blogs however, I want to take a moment to discuss the climate at Uni and the college process. Today, I passed around a poll, with 30 senior responses. As I promised, it is anonymous. I asked them two questions about the college process:
1) Did you feel supported by your peers?
2) Did you actively feel judged at any point?
The second question had a very solid result:
3 people said No
27 people said Yes
What does that mean for the senior class? It means throughout the college process, most of the seniors have felt judged about a number of things including scores, colleges, final decision, rejections, and grades. One response said "especially applying to small, unknown, liberal arts schools". Another response was "snarkiness from a few people". A third one said "Especially with UIUC". Lisa was telling me of students who come in her office crying because they got into an Ivy League, only to be judged for it. What is going on here Uni kids?
It seems as if people are getting judged for going to UIUC, for not going to UIUC, for going to an Ivy League, for not going to an Ivy League, for looking at unknown, for looking at known--really, is anyone free from the judgment? Then, it occurred to me that 27 people said they felt judged. I estimate that if I polled the other 31 (myself not included) seniors, I would still have an overwhelming number of yeses. If everyone feels judged and they dislike it for the most part, then why is anyone judging others? Now, that is easier said than done, because it is human nature to judge. But, if one doesn't want to feel judged, then they shouldn't judge others. If person A agreed to stop judging person B, and person B agreed to stop judging person A, then judgment stops.
Juniors, I implore you to remember that each person has their own unique college process. Even the closest friends have different interests and needs. We are forging a new path for ourselves, whether it is college, abroad, or right here at home. Thinking about my friends, there's a few future doctors, an undecided, a businesswoman, engineers of all shapes and sizes, techies, English experts, etc. I myself am majoring in education. With so much variety, we must remember that each process and final decision is unique, and beautiful. We are at the crossroads, forming the people we want to be. We should be proud of each other, no matter WHERE we go.
For the first question, I got a mixture of responses:
I got some yeses
I got some occasionally's
I got some sometimes
I got some kind of's
I got a NEVER
I got some some/most of them's
I got a meh...
I got a sorta
I got a hell no
This data is harder to interpret because there are a myriad of answers. However, what can be said is in an ideal situation, all 30 responses would be yes. We are a social species. It is hard to survive without the group. So, instead of actively judging your peers or passively doing nothing, I propose the Class of 2012 actively supports each other. This is a long, arduous process. There will be celebrations, acceptances, successes, and breaths of relief. There will also be afflictions, rejections, failures, and sighs of disappointment. Support will be key in making sure you're okay when you're in our positions, mailing in deposits.
Here are some suggestions for support:
1) After a test, organize a picnic, bike ride, movie, or other fun activity
2) Refrain from bragging too much about your schools (remember, there is a fine line between your excitement/pride and hurting other people).
3) Keep your test scores to yourself, your college applications, and Lisa (PCCs only if you want to!). There's a reason you have to go through a security check before you can look at your scores.
4) Remember that your process is uniquely your own. Try not to look at other processes through the lens of your own process.
5) In January, try to celebrate finishing your college applications
6) Check your college decisions at home, not at school.
7) If you are asked about your college process and you aren't comfortable answering, just tell them you aren't telling people. Conversely, if you are asking someone about their college process and they don't feel comfortable answering, let it go and move on.
Remember Class of 2012, the climate of Uni won't change overnight. However, each person has the ability to make a small difference. Someday, hopefully, the collection of all those small differences can make a world of change.
-Celinda :]
(PS, thank you all seniors who participated in my poll!)
I am super excited for some of the blogs coming up. As I already stated, Stef is going to do a blog about Parkland. We will also hear from the other PCCs and their college decisions. Also, Elenita agreed to be interviewed about her future plans--let me tell you, they are really cool!
Before any of these blogs however, I want to take a moment to discuss the climate at Uni and the college process. Today, I passed around a poll, with 30 senior responses. As I promised, it is anonymous. I asked them two questions about the college process:
1) Did you feel supported by your peers?
2) Did you actively feel judged at any point?
The second question had a very solid result:
3 people said No
27 people said Yes
What does that mean for the senior class? It means throughout the college process, most of the seniors have felt judged about a number of things including scores, colleges, final decision, rejections, and grades. One response said "especially applying to small, unknown, liberal arts schools". Another response was "snarkiness from a few people". A third one said "Especially with UIUC". Lisa was telling me of students who come in her office crying because they got into an Ivy League, only to be judged for it. What is going on here Uni kids?
It seems as if people are getting judged for going to UIUC, for not going to UIUC, for going to an Ivy League, for not going to an Ivy League, for looking at unknown, for looking at known--really, is anyone free from the judgment? Then, it occurred to me that 27 people said they felt judged. I estimate that if I polled the other 31 (myself not included) seniors, I would still have an overwhelming number of yeses. If everyone feels judged and they dislike it for the most part, then why is anyone judging others? Now, that is easier said than done, because it is human nature to judge. But, if one doesn't want to feel judged, then they shouldn't judge others. If person A agreed to stop judging person B, and person B agreed to stop judging person A, then judgment stops.
Juniors, I implore you to remember that each person has their own unique college process. Even the closest friends have different interests and needs. We are forging a new path for ourselves, whether it is college, abroad, or right here at home. Thinking about my friends, there's a few future doctors, an undecided, a businesswoman, engineers of all shapes and sizes, techies, English experts, etc. I myself am majoring in education. With so much variety, we must remember that each process and final decision is unique, and beautiful. We are at the crossroads, forming the people we want to be. We should be proud of each other, no matter WHERE we go.
For the first question, I got a mixture of responses:
I got some yeses
I got some occasionally's
I got some sometimes
I got some kind of's
I got a NEVER
I got some some/most of them's
I got a meh...
I got a sorta
I got a hell no
This data is harder to interpret because there are a myriad of answers. However, what can be said is in an ideal situation, all 30 responses would be yes. We are a social species. It is hard to survive without the group. So, instead of actively judging your peers or passively doing nothing, I propose the Class of 2012 actively supports each other. This is a long, arduous process. There will be celebrations, acceptances, successes, and breaths of relief. There will also be afflictions, rejections, failures, and sighs of disappointment. Support will be key in making sure you're okay when you're in our positions, mailing in deposits.
Here are some suggestions for support:
1) After a test, organize a picnic, bike ride, movie, or other fun activity
2) Refrain from bragging too much about your schools (remember, there is a fine line between your excitement/pride and hurting other people).
3) Keep your test scores to yourself, your college applications, and Lisa (PCCs only if you want to!). There's a reason you have to go through a security check before you can look at your scores.
4) Remember that your process is uniquely your own. Try not to look at other processes through the lens of your own process.
5) In January, try to celebrate finishing your college applications
6) Check your college decisions at home, not at school.
7) If you are asked about your college process and you aren't comfortable answering, just tell them you aren't telling people. Conversely, if you are asking someone about their college process and they don't feel comfortable answering, let it go and move on.
Remember Class of 2012, the climate of Uni won't change overnight. However, each person has the ability to make a small difference. Someday, hopefully, the collection of all those small differences can make a world of change.
-Celinda :]
(PS, thank you all seniors who participated in my poll!)
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